Fire Truck Responding- Engine 16
Engine 16 dispatched along with Engine12 to back up Engine 11 on what was supposed to be a dumpster fire. Battallion 3 requested two more Engines after he arrived on scene to find that it was a construction dumpster on fire. Oh but it gets better, The construction dumpster was still sitting on the back of the truck!
Engine 16 is a 1989 E- One Hurricane. It has a 1500 GPM pump and is carrying 1000 gallons of water.
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Another thing we …
Another thing we noticed between the 2 was the distance when attacking a fire. Class A was much more effective on knockdown at a distance vs water but close in, as we use to fight, there’s no difference. We use to have a saying that if you couldnt touch it, you weren’t close enough. We extinguished many working structure fires, including hydraulic ventilating, using between 250 and 500 gal.
I never understood …
I never understood the use of Class A foam. I understand the theory behind it, but i have experimented with Class A vs water many times and found that a fire can be extinguished just as fast with plain old water as it can with foam. The biggest key we noticed with experimenting between the 2 was experience on the nozzle and with the crew. You can see the same thing on Class B fires too or any fire for that matter. Me personally, just give me the wet stuff to put on the red stuff.
Also, the reason to …
Also, the reason to carry AFFF is to extinguish class B fires that you may encounter during a vehicle fire, industrial fire, vehicle fire, etc. As with almost all Hydrocarbon liquids (oil based products), their are lighter than water and thus will float on water and spread the fire. Yes, you can use water fog to extinguish and contain the fire, but why bother when you can set your foam system to 3-6% and use an aspirating nozzle and put the thing out in minutes.
I use to be an …
I use to be an Industrial Firefighter/HazMat Specialist/Foam and Flammable Liquids Technician, so I speak from many years and many fires of experience in saying that foam is not as effective on this type of fire that it would be on another type, like say class B. With a fire like this, penetration is key to extinguishing the fire and preventing a rekindle and the best way to penetrate a bunch of debris is a straight tip nozzle or use of a deludge gun. Personally, I think Class A foam is a joke.
You are correct, …
You are correct, but why carry AFFF in the tank when most fires you are going to extinguish are Class A type fires. Most Engines I see today have both A & B foam tanks to select from. It should only take less than two gallons of concentrate to fill a dumpster, it does not cost a whole lot. You wast more flowing your foam system every week. Fot not being effective any surfactant works on Class A fires just not the other way around.
I love Mars 888 …
I love Mars 888 lights. Always a great attention getter.
We use foam on all …
We use foam on all fires! except we didnt use afff on this fire. or any other class b. we used class a foam. we use the very same thing on house fires too.
Thx I appreciate it!
Thx I appreciate it!
Foam is a waste of …
Foam is a waste of money on a dumpster fire. Besides, the most common foam, AFFF, isnt not effective on Class A fires or fires with un even surfaces. It works by producing a thin layer or film and surpressing flammable liquid vapors, thus extinguisher a fire, hence the name, Aquious Film Forming Foam. or A Triple F as its known in the fire service.
After 9-11 happened …
After 9-11 happened, our sister station, Station 55 Emlenton PA, sponsored FDNY station 55 in “Little Italy”, that lost 5 guys in the WTC collapse, and I asked their LT. that same question and what he said was the origins of that were suppose to be because it is the Fire Department of New York City instead of New City Fire Department, hence the FDNY, as opposed to the New York City Police Department (NYPD). Thats the best I can help you with and hoped that answered your question.
Big fire station.
Big fire station.
Can you tell me why …
Can you tell me why it’s NYPD (New York Police Department), but the other way around with the fire department, “FDNY”? ThX!
what happened to …
what happened to attacking the fire upwind and just fill the dumpster with foam
Actually, if you …
Actually, if you had a 5/8″ straight tip at 90psi (standard operating pressure for straight tip deludge/deck guns) flow about 250-300gpm, depending on the plumbing to the gun, and that would give you much more penetrating power than a 1 3/4″ or 2 1/2″ fog nozzle at pretty much the same flow. You’re going to dump 500-to 1,000 gallons on it anyways, why not be done with in 2-4 minutes?
cause it takes a …
cause it takes a load of water
cool mars light
cool mars light
my fav responce yet!
my fav responce yet!
so what your saying …
so what your saying is: since a fire trucks uses a wail and yelp with a Q and air horns, people are going to think a cop is trying to pull tehm over for speeding? i dont think so. and another thing, i have never seen a squad car or chief truck with a q and air horns. no. they have they same siren as a cop car, and they manage to respond without any accidents so i think that having the same siren is not a accident waiting to happen
2:13 one of my most …
2:13 one of my most favorite things to do with the fire truck First is saving lives and you gotta love that Federal Q
Think about …
Think about distance, BEFORE they see it they’d hear it.
im thinking that …
im thinking that people r not going to think that a cop car is a big red thing i mean come on
Their were to many …
Their were to many void ares. and it would have taken to much water to fill the dumpster up to drown it. we have done that with smaller dumpsters
Was there a …
Was there a particular reason why an Engine didnt set up close and just deludge the thing with a deck gun?
Thats a Q2B on the …
Thats a Q2B on the video, they haven’t made the Q2A’s in many many years
Thats a Grover 1510 …
Thats a Grover 1510 Stuttertone